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This is Joy & Claire Episode 110: Private Jets and No Comments Sections
Episode Date: January 20, 2022
Transcription Completed: January 27, 2022
Audio Length: 47:54 minutes
Joy: Hey guys, this is Joy.
Claire: And this is Claire.
Joy: This is Joy and Claire. How’re we doing?
Claire: It sure is. How are we doing? Welcome to the third week of January. I normally feel like January is the slowest month, but this month I feel like has gone by really fast.
Joy: Genuinely answer that question, everybody. How are you?
Claire: How are you?
Joy: I think objectively if I look back at the last week, I’m like, “That was a doozie.” That was a doozie. How is your January going, first of all.
Claire: Yeah. It’s been a doozie. So the last time we talked, Maxine had Covid. She’s fully recovered thankfully, and it never got that serious for her at all. But serious enough that… she was not asymptomatic. She had a bad head cold, enough to not want to be around small children all day.
Claire: And also because she had to isolate, so she was isolating for a week. It was the week after winter break, so Miles didn’t go back to school until Wednesday. Then on Thursday, they had a snow day. Then on Friday he was back in school. So I was with Evie while I was also trying to work. I know this is a situation a lot of people have been in a lot in the last two years, but it’s so brutal to try to work full-time while you’re parenting. So I did that. That was my first week of January. And then last week, because Maxine had had Covid, Brandon had to delay his trip to go to Wisconsin to be with his mom who had just had cancer surgery. So he did that last week. He was gone basically from Wednesday until Sunday night. And this week, he’s leaving again early Thursday morning to go ice climbing. I’m like, really? You’re going to go on a big –
Joy: With Justin.
Claire: With Justin.
Joy: Well, it’s kind of our own fault. We set them up.
Claire: And it’s one of those things where this has been in the works for a while. We couldn’t have known that he was going to be gone last week, because that was supposed to happen the week before. And I was supposed to have been gone last weekend. I was supposed to have been on that hunting trip last weekend, and then it got cancelled. Right now, I’m just feeling snarky because I’m like, really, Brandon? You’re going to ice climbing after you already left me home alone after I was already home alone with the kids because Maxine had Covid? January has just been a month of parenting by myself. And thank God for Maxine. I don’t know how many times I’ve said that in the last two years. But if you’re new here, Maxine is our au pair. She’s from Brazil. She’s been with us now for just over two years. And because of Covid, she was able to get a visa extension. She’s probably going to be with us still for quite a while. Right now, we definitely have her through June, and then we’re going to see what our options are. She lives in our house. These are the questions I always get, so I’ll just run through them quickly. She lives in our house in the spare bedroom downstairs. We also have a spare bathroom. If you want to have an au pair, they don’t have to have their own bathroom. They just need to have their own bedroom. We do have an extra car for her. We actually just got a new car. We had this crappy old Impreza. It was lovely. It was full of love crappy car, but still crappy. So we traded it in and got a newer Impreza. That’s a tangent.
Joy: And you always get the question about which agency she’s from.
Claire: Oh yeah. We used Au Pair in America. Honestly though, there are several really good agencies. I’ve had friends who’ve used Culture Care. There’s another one, I can’t remember it. But all of the agencies are pretty much the same because the au pair program is a federal program. So everything about it is mandated – the number of hours they can work, the amount you have to pay them. All of that is tied to the type of visa that they have, so it’s completely standardized. So really the only difference I found is that some au pair agencies are more popular in certain parts of the world. For example, people I know who have au pairs from Culture Care are from Europe. Versus Au Pair in America more from Central and South America. So that’s really the only difference. So if you have your heart set on a German-speaking au pair, maybe Culture Care is more your fit. Or if you have your heart set on a Spanish-speaking au pair, maybe Au Pair in America. I will also say as a note, I think a lot of people think about an au pair as someone who will come into their house and teach their kids a different language. That’s definitely an option, but for the majority of au pairs, they’re coming here to learn English. For them, the purpose is not for them to come here and to teach your kids another language.
Joy: Right. They’re not coming here to teach your kids something. They’re here like, “I’m here to work, not also be a teacher.”
Claire: And it definitely can happen. For example, Maxine was with another family before us. Since she’s from Brazil, obviously she speaks Portuguese. And the family she was with before were from Portugal, so they specifically hired her because they were like, “Our kids already speak Portuguese. Because we speak Portuguese in the home, we want someone who understands us.” So that was a little bit of a different situation where they all already spoke it and just wanted an au pair who also spoke it.
Claire: So they didn’t have to speak a different language around her. Versus, hey, come here and teach our kids this language. And who knows? Maybe some au pairs would really like that.
Joy: Yeah, maybe that’s something they want.
Claire: But you’d have to talk about that ahead of time.
Joy: It’s a good thing to point out if you’re inquiring about getting an au pair to not expect that that’s going to be –
Claire: To not assume.
Claire: People are always like, “Oh, did she teach your kids Portuguese?” No, my kids don’t know Portuguese. And maybe if she spoke Spanish, I would have been a little bit more like, “Could you speak Spanish with the kids, maybe teach them a couple of phrases?” But we talked about this, how it’s not overly useful to just know conversational Portuguese in America.
Joy: Right, right.
Claire: Anyway. All that to say, for me so far in January, it has been a lot of parenting.
Joy: I feel like I’m seeing a lot of that too. A lot of schools closing or the threat of schools closing.
Claire: Oh my gosh.
Joy: I feel like parents are just real on that tipping point.
Claire: We’re stressed out. The novelty has worn off, if there ever was a novelty. It’s one step forward, two steps back this whole pandemic. And, man, it’s so tiring. I definitely empathize with people out there who can’t work from home. I’m really lucky. Despite how difficult it is to work from home with two kids, at least I have that option. Of course, having our au pair has been the most unbelievable ace in the hole this whole time. I literally don’t know what we would have done without here. My mom lives a mile away. We have so much support. And even with that support, I still feel this way. I can only imagine how tough it is to not have this network that we have. And I really try not to take it for granted. And I still allow myself to feel burnt out.
Joy: Absolutely. You’re also allowed your feelings. Just don’t get into the comparison game. It’s always good to be grateful, and it’s always good to have perspective. It’s also okay to just be like, “I’m having a really crappy day.”
Claire: Like, “This is tiring, and I’m over it.” We talked about this probably a year ago at this point, and then people are like, “Then you shouldn’t have had kids.” Listen. Okay, I don’t think anyone who’s listening to this podcast has that thought. I think you all have more perspective on life than that. But it’s also people who are like, “Nurses should stop complaining. They signed up for this.”
Joy: Ugh, don’t even.
Claire: Let me be clear, none of us signed up for doing any of this.
Joy: The worst. The worst.
Claire: Parenting during the pandemic – if you had described to me what this would be like, I’m not saying I wouldn’t have had kids. But I probably would have thought –
Joy: You would have thought long and hard about it. The worst of the filth live in the comment section on social media. And I don’t know where I saw a comment recently. I’m sure it was New York Mag or New York Times. It was just about parenting during the pandemic and how this is unending, especially if you have young school-age children. And some idiot –
Claire: It was in The New York Times. They came out with this thing that was like, what it’s like for parents right now whose kids aren’t old enough to get vaccinated.
Joy: Yes. And some idiot was like, “Well, you’re the one that decided to have kids.” I was just like, I can’t imagine being that ignorant that that is your response. That you live in a world where you are that ignorant, that that is your response. The lack of compassion. Anyway, it drives me crazy.
Claire: I know. Nothing surprises me anymore with people’s lack of compassion. Nothing surprises me anymore, which is sad. But also, we’ve talked about the things that have hit me the most during this pandemic and the first one being no one has our backs. No one has a plan. And I talked about that, that in the first couple of months of the pandemic, I kept thinking someone’s planned this. Someone has N95’s somewhere. Someone is going to step in and be like, “Hey, we have a plan for this.” And no one ever did, obviously, to this day. And that has been one of the biggest shocks to me. Wow, really no one is coming to save us.
Joy: Great podcast, by the way. That’s a great podcast.
Claire: Oh really?
Joy: Yeah. It’s about childcare in America. It’s called No One is Coming to Save Us. It’s very well done. It is depressing, but it’s well done. And Kristen Bell is in it. It’s good. It would be validating, if anything.
Claire: And then the other thing that I’m not surprised by ever anymore is how crappy people are. I really used to think that most people at their core were empathetic. I don’t believe that anymore. It’s sad.
Joy: It’s sad. And I don’t mean to be a downer either. I’m laughing out of this – I do feel like there is so much in my life where I put myself in a bubble on purpose because I just can’t handle the hate of the world. But also, I need to watch the news. Have we had this discussion before where I have a weird thing about people who are like, “I don’t watch the news”? Part of me is like, well, you’ve got to be informed. You don’t get to just ignore what is going on in the world. I get don’t sit there and watch a car wreck 500 times. Know what’s going on in your world so that you can be educated and so that you can then be helpful.
Claire: Right. I don’t watch the news because we don’t have cable. But I do seek out news sources.
Joy: There’s plenty of ways to consume the news.
Claire: Right, you have to interact with the news.
Joy: Every once in a while, I kind of go on social media and am reminded of the horrible people that exist. There was a post that Chrissy Teigen did yesterday – and she has since taken it down, which I understand why. Any time I have, I don’t know, some doubt of what I’m doing in my life, or have I don’t enough in this world, I’m like, I would never want to be at that level of fame because of the amount of filth that you’re exposed to, in terms of the horrible people. So Krissy Teagan posted this beautiful picture – she’s gorgeous, she’s stunning, so’s John – of the two of them after dinner. She had this beautiful wrap dress on. It was a lot of rouching, a lot of flowiness. Everyone knows that she had a miscarriage last year… two years ago? She has been very public about that and how devastating it was. She talked a lot about that on her Instagram. People in the comments were like, “Are you pregnant?” Of course, there’s always those people that will come to her defense and be like, “I can’t believe you had the audacity to ask that question to someone who’s had a miscarriage. And she took it down. I think she was just so traumatized by the comments, understandably so. Again, the amount of ignorance that people think that they can go on – I mean, unbelievable.
Claire: I have to just wonder, why do celebrities have their comments turned on ever?
Joy: I wonder the same thing. I wonder the same thing.
Claire: Isn’t there a setting to where you can make it so that only the people you follow can comment.
Claire: Every celebrity should have that turned on.
Joy: That’s what I was thinking too. And then that would get me upset if I was a celebrity like, “This is why we can’t have nice things. People ruin it. I can’t connect with the fans that are truly good fans because the really bad ones just ruin the whole party.” But yeah, I’ve noticed Taylor Swift turned all her comments off. There’s a lot of celebrities out there that have since turned their comments off.
Claire: Beyonce doesn’t even leave captions on her posts.
Joy: Beyonce doesn’t even follow anybody. I aspire to be the level of fame where you just don’t follow anybody.
Claire: That’s the difference. I don’t want to be so famous that people think they can say whatever they want. I want to be so famous that people can’t even say anything.
Joy: Yeah, exactly. That’s the level of fame I want.
Claire: I want to just skip over everyone’s opinion.
Claire: And just get to the point where you can’t say anything.
Joy: That’s the level of fame I want, yeah. You’re so beyond social media that you’re just sitting at the top of the castle watching everyone comment being like, “Doesn’t touch me.”
Claire: Right. There’s nothing you can say. And people can’t even say anything. There’s nothing.
Joy: You just turned it off. You shut it down. Trump style on Twitter, goodbye, done.
Claire: I feel that way also sometimes about really, really, really wealthy people. Like, in one of the jobs that I’ve had, I was an account manager that one of my accounts was a direct competitor of NetJets. Like Uber for private planes. I remember somebody, and I’m sure this line applies to so many things, but I remember talking about the target consumer. They were like, “These are the type of people who if you have to ask how much it costs, you can’t afford it.”
Joy: Yeah, I remember you talking about that.
Claire: That line has just always stuck with me. Like, there are people out there who it’s like you don’t even have to ask how much it costs because it doesn’t even matter. You have so much money that It couldn’t possibly be more than you could afford.
Joy: Wow, yeah.
Claire: Just magic.
Joy: Do you ever – because we talk about this I think all the time. Famous people and money. Money doesn’t buy you happiness and whatever. But if you had the ability to have whatever you wanted, would you have a private jet? What would you have that you’re like, truly, this would make my life easier?
Claire: I always think of that chapter in Amy Schumer’s book where she talks about private jets.
Joy: Oh, I know, it’s so good. Girl with a Lower Back Tattoo, read it. It’s good.
Claire: I mean, that whole book – some of it was a little bit like, “Okay, we get it.” But that chapter is so funny. She’s like, “Listen, everyone wants you to think fame doesn’t go to your head. But flying private is the best.”
Joy: It is the best.
Claire: That one time that we got to fly on a private plane.
Joy: It was amazing.
Claire: Before we even landed, I was like, “This is my new standard. I will accept nothing less.”
Joy: I will accept nothing less. [laughing]
Claire: I’m never going to forget that experience.
Joy: It was so great.
Claire: I would one hundred thousand percent have a private a jet.
Joy: I would have a private jet in a heartbeat. It was amazing. I remember just pulling up to the airport and walking ten steps onto the plane.
Claire: And the only stop you take is for a receptionist to offer you a bottle for water before you get on the plane.
Joy: No one’s in the lobby.
Claire: You’re going to give me liquids?
Joy: I don’t have to dump out this expensive water I just bought?
Claire: You came to offer me a liquid.
Joy: And then you go to the bathroom and there’s mints and snacks and everything’s very sanitary.
Claire: And not like a container for needles.
Claire: Okay, that was a bad joke.
Joy: Oh no, no, no.
Claire: But there’s not like a toilet where you’re like, “What happened here?’
Joy: Right. There’s not a toilet just automatically flushing over and over again? Yeah, it’s pretty great. It’s pretty great. I think the private jet thing… I don’t know. You know, I’ve been watching like Selling Sunset, and the amount of – man, the amount of money people have, it’s just unbelievable.
Claire: I mean, there are definitely some things where I’m like, even if I was filthy, filthy rich, I would still cook for myself. I love cooking. But I’d definitely have someone else do the dishes. There are certain things where I’m like, I would outsource that in a heartbeat. I don’t think that I would be this down to earth, like, “She’s just like us.”
Claire: I think if I was ever to win the lottery – and even $100 million is not enough to be at the level of wealth that a lot of these people are. But I still think I would do like – okay, we’re going to take one trip on a private plane. We’re going to do the NetJet thing and just go somewhere on a private jet. And then get there and stay in a VIP suite. Like, I would blow my whole lottery on one VIP vacation.
Joy: Hey, remember when we – let’s just talk about flying private again. When we were like, “Oh, we need to go pick up Sandy.” We just stopped to pick up Sandy. Like we’re in a taxi, but we’re in a plane. “Oh, we can just hop over and pick up Sandy. We can do that.” Alright.
Claire: That was the life, our one-day luxury.
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Claire: Okay, speaking of fancy – a little bit more fancy. Target boots, you guys.
Joy: Tell us everything.
Claire: Okay, I posted this on Instagram stories on Monday because they were on sale. But even not on sale, they’re still only $40, so it’s still a bargain. They are called the – oh no, did I close the window?
Joy: Oh, I have them right here. They are the women’s Maisie clog boots by Universal Thread.
Claire: Maisie clog boots. And they are so cute.
Joy: They are really cute.
Claire: I am always on the hunt for a good boot. My friend Steph who lives in Jacksonhole – the resort is called Jacksonhole, the town is called Jackson. She had these. She bought these, and she was like, “You’ve got to get these.” She was so right. They are so cute. I love them. They have a nice little tread on them. The top is lined with a little bit of fleece, so the lip of the boot doesn’t dig into your shin. They look perfect with a straight leg or a wide leg pant. If you guys have been like, “Claire, the follow-up on this wide-leg shoe/pant question has not been sufficient, here it is.” So go to Target – maybe we’ll link these in the comments. Go to Target. Get yourself these daisy clog boots. I’m literally about to buy a second pair, just to have a backup pair.
Joy: I’m very excited. Even though I really don’t leave my house. I’m really on the hunt for cute don’t-leave-the-house-much clothing.
Claire: These are both. You could wear these to work. You could wear these to walk the dog. I’m so into them. For $40.
Joy: I do love the photo on all the people who do #targetstyle, and they look cute on everybody.
Claire: A photo review? Yeah.
Joy: Yes. Everyone looks adorable wearing them.
Claire: They’re very cute. They used to have them in black. The black is sold out. Now you have to get them in brown. I prefer a brown shoe.
Joy: I think the brown looks way better.
Claire: In general, are you more of a brown shoe or black shoe person?
Joy: That’s a tough one.
Claire: You’re more like a yellow or pink shoe.
Joy: Yeah, I think with these types of boots, I’d probably do brown, just because it seems like it fits the boot more. But apparently everyone loves the black.
Claire: I’m definitely a brown shoe person. I only have one pair of black shoes, and they’re these leather loafers from ALDO that I bought forever ago, and they’re so weathered looking now. They weren’t supposed to look like that. I’m definitely a brown shoe person. I’m more of a brown color palette person. Have you ever done your colors? Have we ever talked about this?
Claire: Do you know what I mean?
Claire: Like, are you an autumn or a spring?
Claire: You know what I’m talking about though, right?
Claire: You don’t know what I’m talking about?
Joy: No, I don’t know what you’re talking about. What are you talking about?
Claire: Okay, let me just process this.
Joy: If this is a personality test, then I’m out.
Claire: This is probably like a 1970’s era thing that was very, very popular where you would go into a department store and get draped in your colors. You were broken into seasons – spring, summer, winter, fall. And then within those seasons, there’s warm, neutral, soft. I think those are the ones. So it’s like this is the range of colors that looks best with your features, so then you know, okay, for makeup and for clothes I should gravitate towards this family of colors. So I think it’s spring and autumn are warmer tones, but spring is kind of warm and bright. I should look this up. I’m going to butcher it. But basically there’s a quadrant, and things are warm or cool, and bright or – what’s the opposite of bright?
Claire: Yeah, not neutral… but muted.
Joy: Muted. Okay.
Claire: So I’m a soft autumn.
Joy: Who tells you this? Is there some genie at the department store? I don’t get it.
Claire: Okay. You can mostly do it yourself. But it’s having a resurgence with housewives. Not just housewives. It’s having a resurgence because of Instagram and TikTok. There are people who have millions of followers who do this on TikTok and show, like, “This blue, you think it looks fine until you see them in this blue. Look at their features. We didn’t change anything. It looks like they have a full face of makeup on now because this color suits their palette better, and it doesn’t wash them out. And you didn’t even realize they were washed out in that other color until you saw them in this color.”
Joy: I don’t know why, but I’m starting to feel like I’m 80.
Claire: I’m going to send you some links. That’s the funny thing though is this used to be such an old lady thing because it was in vogue in the 70’s. It was like, you’re going to go get your colors done. I can’t believe you’ve never heard of this.
Joy: No. I mean, I remember getting my makeup done and they would tell you what colors look good on you. But not clothing. Never, no.
Claire: And this is for everything. So literally, if you type in “color draping” I think it’s called… yeah, literally just “color draping.”
Joy: That is so weird.
Claire: This is funny to me that you – I thought you for sure would –
Claire: Google “color draping” and go to images.
Claire: And you’ll see what I’m talking about.
Joy: Okay. So there’s pictures of people’s skin tones and accompanying color palettes that go with us.
Joy: Skin tone.
Joy: So if I was going to just barely look at it –
Claire: Just eyeball it.
Joy: Just eyeball it. I’m looking at a clear spring and a deep autumn, a soft summer maybe. That’s really weird. This is all really bizarre and new, but I’ll have to look more into it.
Claire: It’s just so funny. It’s just one of those things where you think, is this too much information to know about myself? But also, I think there’s a little something to it. And if you’re the type of person – I find it helpful because I don’t know how to shop. So I think it’s helpful for the type of person who can’t really visualize who things look at them. They’re not good at that. So for me, it’s helpful to know as long as I somewhat gravitate toward this color palette. If I’m in a story and I don’t know where to start, I’m going to start by looking for these colors that I sort of know are going to look good on me. As opposed to, one of my favorite colors is mint, but if I wear mint I look like a cadaver because it pulls out the translucent blues –
Joy: In your skin or whatever. That’s so interesting. I’m just looking at the celebrities that they have. Like Julia Roberts is autumn. Sarah Jessica Parker is summer.
Claire: Yeah. So the cheating way to do it is to just find a celebrity that you have more or less the same colors as, and that’s how I found out that I was an autumn. Because pretty much if you have red hair and dark eyes, you’re going to be an autumn.
Joy: Yeah, yeah, yeah. That’s really weird. I would say then that I’m a summer. I don’t know. I’ll have to look more into this. This is stressing me out. But I tend to know what colors look good on me based on what I see in pictures. I’ll see something and I’ll be like, “I don’t know if I like that color on me.” Most of the time if I’m wearing any jewel-tone red, I like it on me. So that’s really all I know.
Claire: Find the jewel tone red season.
Joy: And let’s just start there.
Claire: I’m also curious to hear people, if you have heard of this, have you heard of it in the context of being cool on TikTok or have you heard of it in the context of your grandma used to host – like, this was like a version of a Tupperware party. You would come to your house, and you and all your friends would get your colors done.
Joy: Wow. So how did we get on this topic? You started.
Claire: I think I was talking about only wearing brown.
Claire: Because I wear a lot of brown because it’s one of my colors. I mean, I’m wearing a taupe right now.
Joy: One of your signature colors.
Claire: It’s a color that goes with my coloring as a soft autumn.
Joy: I see.
Claire: Yes. Very exciting for all of you to know this about me. Add it to the list of random crap you learned about me since the podcast started.
Joy: Random things.
Claire: Which is pretty much everything.
Joy: Everything and then some. Yeah, that totally brings me back. Did you ever see Glamour Shots in the mall when you were growing up?
Claire: Oh yeah. But I never did it.
Joy: Yeah, I never did it either. I was always so intrigued by them because I was just very amazed by – if people don’t know what we’re talking about, I feel like I can’t even explain it. It’s a studio in the mall where they would doll you up. I want to say this really took a peak in the 80’s, maybe early 90’s.
Claire: I feel like early 90’s.
Joy: Like a photo studio, but they would doll you up. Like full on makeover. Not just a makeover. It was very large hair. It was very glossy lipstick, very glossy lip gloss. A lot of pinks, a lot of bright pinks. A lo too lipstick. A lot of eyeshadow. And you had neon light background. I would love if someone out there got a Glamour Shot, if they can just go ahead and send that to us because I would love to see the Glamour Shot.
Claire: Just send it on over. It was also the era of getting photos printed on every single product you can think of. So you could get a mousepad with your Glamour Shot on it.
Joy: That still happens, you know.
Claire: Aw, mouse pads. My dad still uses a mouse pad.
Joy: I actually need a mouse pad.
Claire: So if someone out there has a Glamour Shot, get it made into a mouse pad and send it to Joy.
Joy: Send it to me please. That would make my day. That would really make my day. Please just do it. DM me. I’ll give you my address. I’m so excited. I hope this happens.
Claire: Someone out there is going to take you up on this.
Joy: I cannot overstate it, that would make my day.
Claire: Bonus points if it’s a 90’s family photo where you guys are all wearing matching denim – denim on denim.
Joy: Oh my gosh. Someone needs to update the awkward family photos. I haven’t seen a new version of that come across in a while.
Joy: Oh man.
Claire: It’s true.
Joy: Do we want to finish off with my near-death experience? I shouldn’t joke about that. I probably could have died.
Claire: Yes, tell us.
Joy: This past week has been a little bit crazy. Let’s see. We’re recording this on Monday, the 17th. So about a week ago, I woke up in the middle of the night like, oh my gosh, I don’t feel well. I feel like I have food poisoning. It wasn’t a cold. Just that feeling, if you’ve ever woken up with food poisoning or you’ve ever had food poisoning, you know the feeling. So I woke up and I was just like, “Oh no, oh no.” And you know that feeling when you’re feeling sick but you’re just willing yourself to not throw up. You’re like, just lay still. Don’t move. Don’t breathe. Don’t wake the beast. Just stay as still as you can. Try to will it away. That’s where I was at. So I was like, okay, this is not going to get any better. I’m not advocating for people to do this, but I tend to take activated charcoal because that has helped me in the past. I just have it in my kitchen cabinet. So I was like, “I’m going to go find some activated charcoal,” because it tends to just settle my stomach and sweep whatever. I don’t know if it works or not, but it has for me in the past. So I’m just going to go do that. [sighs] I went to my kitchen. And I get to my kitchen, and I just start sweating profusely. Out of control, just sweats. I’m like, “Oh my gosh.” I’m holding onto the counter, couldn’t even reach for the activated charcoal because I just have to brace myself against this counter. And I was like, okay, something is either going to come out one end or the other. I’ve got to get to the bathroom immediately. So I start walking towards the bathroom, which was not far away. It was probably just to the corner. I start walking toward the bathroom. Next thing I know, I hear this very loud bang, and I wake up and I’m on the ground. I had hit my head because I had fainted, and on the way down I hit the very tippy top of my head on our kitchen table. The bang woke me back up. It was the most surreal weird experience. I’ve never fainted before, so I didn’t know that’s what happens before you faint. A lot of people wrote in and were like, “Yeah, now that you know what it feels like to faint, if that ever happens again just sit on the floor.” I’m like, great point. I will do that. Or wake up your partner. Or just be like, hey, make sure I’m okay. I had never experienced that before. I didn’t know that’s what was going to happen obviously. And I was okay. I went to the bathroom finally. I made it to the bathroom. But I was just horribly sick for the next 24 hours. Just really, really bad food poisoning. So I’m pretty sure that’s what it was. I took a Covid test. It was negative. I had no other symptoms the next day, so it just kind of cycled through my system really quickly. A lot of people also were sending stories like, “Yeah, that happened to me, and I broke my nose because I fell and hit my nose,” or “I broke my teeth,” or “I split my head open and had to have stitches.” I’m so lucky that I just barely – I must have just skimmed the top of my head and hit it. I had a big bump on my head for a while. But that’s my first fainting story. And hopefully my last fainting story. There’s nothing worse than waking up sick.
Claire: No, that is the worst. My sister-in-law one time fainted in the bathroom at work and crashed down so hard that she took the sink out with her.
Joy: No. No.
Claire: And woke up in a pool of blood.
Joy: That’s terrifying. I was just terrified hearing the crack in my head hit the table.
Claire: I’m still fascinated that that’s what you remember is hearing it. But anyway.
Joy: It sounded exactly like if you took a hammer and just banged it. And I was so confused. I just was breathing really heavy. I had somehow made it to – like, I was on all fours. So I must have tried to get back up, but I was just like, “Oh my God.” I was real sick. But got over it quickly. PSA, if you ever feel really, really dizzy, sweating profusely, just sit down. Just take a seat.
Claire: Yeah, a lot of people were like, “Now you know if you ever start to feel something” – I learned that because I almost passed out in CrossFit once right after I had Miles. I had only been back in the gym for a couple weeks, and I started feeling really, really lightheaded. To the point where I must have looked really pale, and the coach came over and was like, “Sit down. Sit down.” Now, it doesn’t happen to me often, but every once in a while, I’ll get that head rush feeling and I’m like, you know what, I’m just going to sit down. And if this passes, then great. All I’ve done is sat down like a weirdo for two minutes. Not just working out, but anything or anywhere. I feel like that’s not common knowledge that you should just sit down.
Joy: Right. I mean, that’s the thing. I was thinking I’ll just hang onto something. Actually, no, sitting down it better. Because if you faint, you can’t hang onto anything.
Claire: There’s nowhere for you to fall, exactly.
Joy: You’re gone.
Claire: You’re gone.
Joy: It was very weird. And Scott didn’t wake up. I was like, “Did you hear my last night?” I’m like, “Did you not hear the large” – and JT didn’t wake up.
Joy: Normally JT gets freaked out if he hears – and he knows me –
Claire: I mean, you collapsed in the kitchen. It would have been really loud.
Joy: And JT freaks out at loud noises. Yeah, and they were all just snoozing away. I can’t believe you guys. Now I know no one is going to come save me. [laughing]
Claire: Way to go, guys. That’s hilarious.
Joy: Sad. So sad.
Claire: Have you gotten another update on Cadet yet?
Joy: Not yet, and it’s killing me. Today is the 17th. We should probably hear any day now how she’s doing. So far, no phone call. Knock on wood, she’s still in college. We did puppy sit a Canine Companions puppy named Vespa for the past two weeks, and that was really good to fill the space in our house. She was a lot of fun. She reminds us so much of Cadet. We found ourselves trying to make her Cadet. And we’re like, “We can’t do that to you Vespa. You’re Vespa.”
Claire: And you guys are officially on the list for a new puppy?
Joy: Yeah. We’re officially on the list. So that will probably happen, if I had to guess, June maybe.
Joy: If we get another one soon.
Joy: But it was really fun. I took her to a bunch of stores, ran some errands with her. And she did great. She’s an awesome, awesome dog. I think she’ll do really well. It’s just so funny how people still react in public – it’s really sweet, people so badly want to pet the dog. You can see them. You can tell the dog people who are just like, even through their mask you can see the excitement. And then sometimes people will just stop and stare. And I’ll be like, “You can pet him if you want.” It’s okay to stop and ask to pet because nine times out of ten it’s also good practice for me to teach the dog how to great people. But it’s when you rush up to the dog. No one’s done that so far, which is really nice. But a lot of people, if they do ask, they’re like, “Yeah, go ahead. Just love on them.”
Claire: But then some service dogs specifically have, “Do not pet.”
Joy: Oh for sure. But if it’s in training, most of the time it’s fine to ask to pet them. But yeah, if it’s a service dog that says, “Do not pet,” then obviously leave that dog alone. But it’s just really cute. Some people, they will legit just come and stop. They can’t even help themselves. I’m like, “It’s okay. Please.”
Claire: I have felt that way around dogs that have “Do not pet.” I have to just sit on my hands and give big eyes from afar, just try to telepathically pet the dog.
Joy: Did you see that video I posted a couple of weeks ago? Someone sent it to us. It was so cute. It was on TikTok. Some cute girl just made this video. The caption said, “My thoughts inside my head when I see a service dog working in public.” And she’s just covering her eyes like, “I respect you. I want you to know I love you. I know I can’t pet you, but I just want you to know that you’re doing a great job and I couldn’t do what you do.” She’s having this full-on conversation with the service dog that she knows she can’t do anything about.
Claire: That’s so funny. It’s true, though.
Joy: “I fully respect you.”
Claire: “I respect what you’re doing. I can’t come over, but I just want you to know.”
Joy: “I just want you to know I love you.”
Claire: That’s so funny. I love that. Oh dogs.
Joy: Dogs are the best. Yeah. So I think that’s it. You’ve been watching Queer Eye?
Claire: I have. I watched the first two episodes. As you guys know – I always bring this up – I don’t get to watch TV really because of my kids. And by the time I get to the end of the night, I’m just not going to sit down and watch TV. I did watch the first three episodes of the new Queer Eye. I loved the first one. Terri.
Joy: I mean, I just have to say for this season, the casting directors, the people who cast the talent –
Claire: The people who pick the people.
Joy: Unbelievable, the people they pick.
Claire: It took me a while to get into the wagyu beef guy because I was like, this guy is too… but once he opened up, I thought he was good. I liked him more. And I’m almost done with the one with Angel, and she’s really cute too. I think they’re all just so cute. But yeah, then I started watching Cheer.
Joy: Wait, let me just say before we talk about Cheer is if anyone has not seen the latest season of Queer Eye and you just need an episode to watch but you don’t have time, watch the barn animal episode. I don’t think there’s a dry eye in the entire episode. It will just completely fill your heart. If you need a boost, if you need a good shot in your arm –
Claire: Which one is it? Do you know which number it is?
Joy: I want to say it’s episode four or five.
Joy: It is unbelievably good.
Joy: I just think the entire time through that episode, I think Antoni cried through the entire episode.
Claire: Aw, Antoni.
Joy: Like full-on ugly cried. It was so heartwarming. You watch it and you’re like, “I am such a piece of shit. What am I doing with my life?” In a good way where you’re just like, “What am I complaining for?” This girl is devoting her life to such amazing causes. It just gives you a good boost.
Claire: That’s amazing.
Joy: It’s so great. And Cheer, you started watching it?
Claire: Okay, I’ve been skimming through. I’m still at the pre-Covid.
Joy: Second season or first season?
Claire: Second season.
Joy: Yeah, pre-Covid episodes is like one through three, I think.
Claire: I’ve just been skimming. You said this to someone. I don’t know if it was on Instagram DM’s and I just read it or if it was a text. It’s hard because part of what was so fun about the first season was that it felt like this secret.
Joy: Yeah, this small town.
Claire: Right, these small-town cheerleaders that no one knew about. It was sort of this look behind the curtain at them. And now the second season, they’re all famous.
Joy: They’re all really famous.
Claire: And agents and they’re doing these press conferences and they’re going on Ellen. That kind of, “Oh my gosh, I had no idea cheerleading was like this” feeling – and that is what I think made the first season so captivating was the whole time you had this in the back of your mind overarching feeling of, “I had no idea.” And now we kind of know. So I’ve just been sort of skimming the episodes. I think I’m at the end of the second episode where they just found out who’s on mat. But I know that they’re barreling towards a pandemic. So it’s sort of weird to watch the before times.
Joy: Yeah. I think some people were like – and let me just say, I was a cheerleader for most of my high school career. So of course, there’s personal ties watching it being like, oh my gosh. It kind of has some nostalgia tied to it. I didn’t do college cheer. I did college dance, which was great. But I think there’s a lot of nostalgia behind it in that aspect. But I think the allure for season one was because it was just sort of this underground, nobody knew them. The coach was amazing. I love the coach. I think she’s really smart and compassionate. She’s got a lot of great qualities. But then when it blew up and a lot of bad stuff came out too with one of the main characters. If you haven’t watched it, I won’t spoil it. But there is an episode in the second season about it, and they do cover it. I do think they address it very well. If they would have ignored it, I would have been like, that’s in poor taste because it was horrible. My opinion is just, we are in a pandemic. I don’t really care if some shows tend to gloss over the pandemic and they don’t really address it on the show, where some make it a part of the show. It doesn’t bother me now. It never really bothered me when we saw things really pre-pandemic in a show. I don’t know why, but what I can’t do is I can’t listen to podcasts pre-pandemic. Maybe that’s just an audio versus a visual thing.
Claire: And I think for me it’s less about it’s so weird to see them pre-pandemic and more that, I know you guys are so hyped and psyched about something that’s not going to happen. And knowing that that doesn’t come to fruition is sort of this dramatic tension. And I don’t do well with dramatic tension. I can’t know something that they characters don’t know.
Joy: Right, right, right. I get that when people are like, “I hate to tell you this, guys, but it’s not going to happen.” That didn’t bother me so much watching Cheer. But what did bother me was knowing how fame had to have changed this in some way, shape, or form. Whether it be them being their true, genuine selves. I don’t know how that affected the content. But at the end of the day, I thought it was a really good ending. I thought it was well done. I really like how they focused on the other school.
Claire: Yeah, another story to tell.
Joy: Yeah. I think they course corrected. Navarro became such a popular school, whereas the other school is like, “And we’ve been champions as well. Hello.” I don’t think they would have cared as much if the show hadn’t done as well. Now that they got all this attention of fame and money, I’m sure the other school was like, “We want a piece of that pie.” So that was an interesting thing. No judgment. I probably would have felt the same way. They are just as talented, so I feel like that was a smart move on the director’s part to include that story too. Because the other coach is amazing as well.
Claire: Yeah. Well if you guys have seen it, let us know what you think. Who knows when it will be by the time I finish it, so don’t worry about spoilers. Spoilers don’t bother me. In fact, I kind of like spoilers. I kind of like knowing how things are going to end.
Joy: Yeah, Claire likes to know because she doesn’t get stressed out. I’ll have to tell you what happens at the end then because I was pacing. I will not do a spoiler for the end because I really would have been mad if I had found out. I liked the end. I like to have the anticipation of going out on the performance floor and not knowing who is going to win.
Claire: For me, I literally will fast forward to the end, see who wins, and then I can enjoy it.
Joy: Oh really.
Claire: Because if I’m stressed out, I can’t enjoy it.
Joy: I feel that. I do. I was pacing and eating while I was watching it because I was like, “I can’t take it. I can’t take it. I can’t take it.” [laughing]
Claire: Oh my goodness. Alright guys, well that is it for this week. Thank you for joining us for another episode of This is Joy and Claire. Don’t forget to check out our sponsor Ned. Go to helloned.com/JOY or use discount code JOY to get that special offer and support the brands that support our podcast. We appreciate you guys doing that. Don’t forget to check us out on Instagram @joyandclaire_. You can email us at email@example.com. You can always find us, our website joyandclaire.com has all our episodes streaming, has transcripts from previous episodes. The website is not all that impressive, but the content on there is super helpful. If you guys are ever having a hard time downloading an episode, don’t forget that they are always available to stream on joyandclaire.com. Thank you, guys, so much for being here, and we will talk to you next week.
Joy: Bye, guys.
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